tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post6707906711805000862..comments2024-01-22T11:26:37.599-08:00Comments on TGD diary: Hawking and GodMatti Pitkänenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13512912323574611883noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-60828800574539031072010-10-03T03:47:09.530-07:002010-10-03T03:47:09.530-07:00The particle physicist inhabits a theist world, or...The particle physicist inhabits a theist world, or a hill slope of constant slope but he is surrounded by a fog or mist. He climbs up a few metres or descends the same distance and notes that for the experiments he does, the results do not change and describes the the energy conservation laws in new terms such as gauge theory and renormalisation of energies. The cosmologist is found at the base of the hill or at the very top with a clear view in all directions, which appears flat to the horizon. They both have difficulty communicating what they see and don't meet up very often. What they do agree on is that there are about six pebbles (atoms equivalent as Alice mentions or proton equivalents) per cubic metre and not per cubic centimetre as mentioned.<br /><br />The particle physicists are very worried at the moment , caught between the hill slope and a pebble(s) which is a lot smaller than they could have ever imagined, their new estimate of the vacuum energy is ca. 10-11 to -13Joule per cubic metre, much closer to the cosmological prediction for an atheist world that eventually peters out.<br /><br />Graham D. <br />http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=b4ca0bcb8f4a4494b3d7008a0b10e890&topic=278139.0Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-21413029541274854212010-09-22T12:51:28.632-07:002010-09-22T12:51:28.632-07:00Tonight I saw two eagles up in the sky. They were ...Tonight I saw two eagles up in the sky. They were screaming and playing joyously. Their heads were white; it was old eagles. But they were still happy and strong:)<br /><br />I have never seen anything like this before.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-23106326539016733232010-09-22T00:07:23.213-07:002010-09-22T00:07:23.213-07:00Take a quantization :)
or something even bigger....Take a quantization :) <br /><br />or something even bigger...<br />fly up in the sky :)<br /><br /><br />I think I must do it, the book never leave me in peace. I feel I am more prepared for it now.<br /><br />I have reached my clarification. Things are what they are. We all needs hope, even if it is burning us. Zoombies ?<br /><br />I have wondered, why are you not deleting these, although I have asked you to? You are very hard at me.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-83321218806629252512010-09-18T00:10:01.942-07:002010-09-18T00:10:01.942-07:00I like poems, could you find it?
Once I had a dre...I like poems, could you find it?<br /><br />Once I had a dream that my heart was as wide as the sky above :) I was like Nut.<br /><br />Hearts can also feel like stones. But math? Maybe you can expand it by aid of your math and forgive me?<br /><br />It was important for me that you would understand.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-67415734975975899522010-09-14T22:23:15.956-07:002010-09-14T22:23:15.956-07:00"A very strange state in which I precognized ..."A very strange state in which I precognized many of the mathematical ideas about which I was to become "brain-conscious" much later."<br /><br />Your heart is a very strange one, indeed. Maths!!! <br /><br />A very strange state? It was forgiveness, Matti. Time for rebirth II?<br /><br />In womb we have very few perceptions (decoherent measurements), so we are in a quantum state of universality (coherence)? Heart is coherence, as you also has said, negentropy.<br /><br /><br />I think I have used my 5 comments now :(Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-54297623825027436262010-09-14T21:24:40.918-07:002010-09-14T21:24:40.918-07:00I avoid systematically the talk about God to avoid...I avoid systematically the talk about God to avoid associations to organized spirituality which brings in power and suppression. Free will is for me the essence of divine, something for which it is not possible to give a formula and -of course- productize it(;-). I believe that the science of quantum era will be able say a lot about the general aspects of consciousness.<br /><br />I had for 25 years ago or so two great experiences and in the second one I experienced what might be called heart consciousness. A very strange state in which I precognized many of the mathematical ideas about which I was to become "brain-conscious" much later. <br /><br />I also experienced very concretely a kind of re-birth in the sense that all the bitter things in my past were cleaned out and bad deeds forgiven. Maybe heart-consciousness dominates when one is still in womb and maybe it gives an overall view about your future life. Maybe I experienced direct sensory memories about the period when I was still in womb. <br /><br />I read yesterday the poems of finnish poet Arto Melleri-not here anymore. He said something very much like this in some of his poems but I could not find it now.Matti Pitkänenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512912323574611883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-13078492669649238672010-09-14T13:33:19.712-07:002010-09-14T13:33:19.712-07:00I avoid religious ceremonies :)
"Have you no...I avoid religious ceremonies :)<br /><br />"Have you noticed that when people refer to themselves, they don't point their finger at their head, but their heart?" - Do you know why? It is because the heart electromagnetic field (EMG) is the largest one in the body (scientific) :) Another way to say the same thing is to say the heart chakra is dominating. The circular energy turns back to the heart from the head, = you must think with your heart :) In fact, use your whole body to think with. Or, thinking is too important to leave to the brain alone :)<br /><br />I would rather talk of a mirror image of God, also holographic of course.<br /><br />Science has difficulties to talk of holographic Gods, also Mattis theory. It is just a good trial.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-11873156925748711072010-09-14T07:32:29.294-07:002010-09-14T07:32:29.294-07:00I haven't done much praying, not since I was a...I haven't done much praying, not since I was a child and prayed from God that there would be some cinnamon in the house to spice my porridge and there wasn't and I got very disappointed in God and praying. :)<br /><br />This summer I said a few prayers as I attended a religious seremony where we prayed with spirits of tobacco and peyote and those spirits took our prayers to the Great Spirit. All in all, very profound experience.<br /><br />Long before that, I've experienced that friends' wishes that they reveal to me get fullfilled - if they are not against natural balance and respect the freedom of choise. This could easily lead me to a pee-headed egotrip, but I figure it's not about me but the listener, the 'attention' or what ever is also listening to the inner dialogue inside this mind - and feeling the heart chackra. <br /><br />Have you noticed that when people refer to themselves, they don't point their finger at their head, but their heart? :)<br /><br />This said, I don't get the sense that science explains me and/or god (I am 'holographic' god!). Not even Matti's theory. Maybe it just creates, without explaining... ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-55668332182625275472010-09-13T22:28:48.986-07:002010-09-13T22:28:48.986-07:00You can pray to God and he will hear you, as insta...You can pray to God and he will hear you, as instance.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-48901764762957415892010-09-13T13:25:05.589-07:002010-09-13T13:25:05.589-07:00God is love.
This is not a theory or belief but c...God is love.<br /><br />This is not a theory or belief but confidence based on life experience. What my heart wishes and needs, I receive. The only art is to learn to wish skillfully. And what I like especially are nice surprices... :)<br /><br />Love is infinite, we receive individually as much as we can and are able to open up. There is no end to learning all aspects of love. There are no obstacles to learning and experiencing love expect fear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-13236759622664343692010-09-12T04:51:10.512-07:002010-09-12T04:51:10.512-07:00I forgot
'God' has also gone through an ev...I forgot<br />'God' has also gone through an evolution, and he will continue to change. If you read different sources you get different picture, that's why I asked 'how big is God?'. 'God' is no firm constant, because he is a metaphore for the quantum world. This metaphore needs an immidiate evaluation. Science has gone too much in front of religion today. But Church doesn't realize this.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-74093814359919594042010-09-12T04:46:46.638-07:002010-09-12T04:46:46.638-07:00I hear a song, a beautiful song, in the air, comin...I hear a song, a beautiful song, in the air, coming to me, singing in me ...<br /><br />Descartes was wrong. He only did the necessary solution he had to do, because the church had monopoly on the soul. Has the situation changed today? Can soul - matter be scientific? Body, mind and soul? How do they relate?<br /><br />Philosophy is taken away from school, it is taken from university. Money isn't enough. It is a difficult thing to learn, but it helps finding new paths. And new thinking is always difficult. But philosophy is very much needed today.<br /><br />Once I tried to read Chalmers, but it only made me confuse, so I had to stop. It was full of desinformation. Philosophy doesn't have to be right. It is only about thinking.<br /><br />Biology is full of wrong solutions too, take only the implications of the wrong nerve-pulse. In fact 'God' is pulsating in the pulse. You just have to still the noise around you to hear his voice :) It is about synchrony and coherence.<br /><br />I guess it is hard to admit much is upside down in biology. As in physics. Psychology is a farse. etc.<br /><br />I have tried to write down my personal picture http://zone-reflex.blogspot.com/2010/09/experiencies-of-god-and-loneliness.html<br />I have an idea how it can be done, but I need to read more physics...<br />I would want to discuss this later, if you can bring yourself to do it. Still fighting?Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-5776214386017907532010-09-11T22:51:28.073-07:002010-09-11T22:51:28.073-07:00The existence of divine, the essence of which is ...The existence of divine, the essence of which is free will manifesting itself as non-determinism, need not remain a matter of faith. The belief about complete decoupling of physical and spiritual was unavoidable only in the classical world. <br /><br />This belief has managed to survive only because philosophy has been forbidden in physics for so long and still is. I learn again and again that people are not able to become conscious about these simple facts that I am writing just now. The only explanation I find for this is that they are so strongly conditioned to materialistic thinking.<br /><br />Chalmers is a good example about the strength of this conditioning. He wrote a long book about hard problem and demonstrated that dualism leads to materialism. He mentioned quantum theory only in appendix! He must have thought that quantum means only small corrections to classical formulas in atomic length scales. He was a professional philosopher and made this kind of mistake! How difficult it is for a physicist to think clearly about these matters. <br /><br /><br />If we want a world view without internal contradictions with what we know about physics, we must admit that nondeterminism is a fact and that a theory which does not allow it is wrong. If we try construct a theory free of ontological contradictions, very few ontological options remain. Divine becomes a necessity.Matti Pitkänenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512912323574611883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-78149309446359478602010-09-09T08:14:45.832-07:002010-09-09T08:14:45.832-07:00This is a clear and most excellent post and viewpo...This is a clear and most excellent post and viewpoint. Thank you.<br /><br />Of course for me the evidence is all around us as if the air we breathe and do not notice. All in a way is a miracle compared with nothingness. The string theories and topology as well as our notions of energy for me is the same description of at least our local reality.<br /><br />ThePeSlaL. Edgar Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525169618204198073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10614348.post-83652355807976265972010-09-09T07:00:44.054-07:002010-09-09T07:00:44.054-07:00God defences himself in Times: His existence has t...God defences himself in Times: His existence has to be taken on trust. But the essence of God’s argument is that his existence has always been about faith. Professor Hawking’s announcement of God’s non-existence has “forced Me to come out into the open to show that I really do exist,” God writes. “The problem with this is that My followers no longer require faith.<br /><br />Said by http://www.michaelbrooks.org/blog/post/2010/09/04/Hawking-has-e2809cruined-it-for-everyonee2809d-God.aspx<br /><br />How big is God? Some say not bigger than the Milky way. Bigger is the Cosmos.<br />Why cannot God be taken as a metaphore? Ancient people understood a lot but they had not our science and our language, so they simply used other pictures to describe reality. God is such a picture.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.com