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Sunday, July 19, 2026

Challenging the interpretation of Zero Energy Ontology

In holography = holomorphy (H-H) principle the basic objects are not 3-D surfaces but their slightly non-deterministic Bohr orbits. This forces zero energy ontology (ZEO), which solves the basic problem of quantum measurement theory. Classical non-determinism is associated with the edges of the space-time surface and plays a fundamental role in both the TGD inspired theory of conscious experience and basic quantum TGD. It is assumed that edges correspond to "small" state function reductions (SSFRs) in which quantum decoherence is assumed to occur. This also occurs in "big" SFRs (BSFRs) as the TGD counterparts of ordinary state function reductions in which also the arrow of geometric time changes. There are. however several open questions related to ZEO.
  1. Are SSFRs really SFRs associated with the edges of the space-time surface or does their sequence define a TGD finite counterpart of Feynman path integral so that no decoherence would occur?
  2. There are also questions related to the details of the periods consisting of SSFRs. The increase of the size of causal diamond (CD) by scalings occurring in SSFRs would allow us to understand how subjective a sequence of SSFRs corresponds to geometric time as distance between the tips of CD.

    The alternative proposal is that CD shifts gradually to the direction of the active boundary of CD at which the states do not remain fixed in SSFRs. Which option is correct? Does the size of the CD increase indefinitely or does it reduce in BSFRs so that conscious entities would experience childhood after every BSFR? Is the breaking of T symmetry (and also CP symmetry) necessary for the gradual shift of CD to a fixed time direction?

  3. The feed of metabolic energy is necessary for consciousness. Sleep and wakeup can be identified as conscious states with opposite arrows of geometric time. Does the periodically varying feed of the metabolic energy from the Sun as light ,making also possible direct visual perceptions, give rise to a stochastic resonance in which the state of consciousness corresponds to flips between the potential wells of a bistable system.
See the article Challenging the interpretation of Zero Energy Ontology or the chapter Zero Energy Ontology.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Thursday, July 09, 2026

Could expolanet K2-18b serve as a seat of life in TGD Universe?

I have just developed a model for the evolution of geology and biology of Earth and this leads to a criterion for whether life can evolve on the planet (or moon) (see this). The criterion relies heavily on new physics predicted by TGD. The margin is very narrow. The criterion is rather tight and not satisfied for planets with too large Schwartschild radius to radius, for instance giant gas planets of the Earth.
  1. The p-adic transition k=139→ k=137 from ordinary atomic physics to scaled down atomic physics (for which Mills has found evidence), having 4 times higher atomic binding energy scale than ordinary atomic physics, would reduce the atomic radius by factor 1/2 and increase the density by factor 8. This transition would induce scaling of the radius of Earth by factor 1/2 and subsequent Cambrian Explosion in which it increases by factor 2. This transition would bring life from underground oceans to the surface of the Earth.
  2. The liberated atomic and gravitational binding energies make it possible in the case of Earth to throw out a surface layer condensing to form the Moon and metabolic energy burst generating dark atoms, analogous to Rydberg atoms with very large size, making possible large scale quantum coherence inside Earth. This generates p-Adic length scales, which correspond to biologically important scales. Large scale quantum coherence makes possible the evolution of life in the interior of the Earth. The condition that the CE in which expansion to the original radius occurs, can take place requires that gravitational binding energy per proton is larger than the atomic binding energy. This gives for the lower bound of atomic weight A as A>.3 which is satisfied.
The recently found exoplanet K2-18b is regarded as a candidate for a seat of life. In particular, there are indications that it has water at its surface. Its distance is 124 light years. Its radius and mass are R=2.61RE and M= 8.6ME. This gives rs/R= 8.6/2.61∼ 3.3. The condition for A in the case of the Earth is scaled up from A>.3 to estimate A>.99 satisfied already for hydrogen atoms. K2-18b would be just at the border line but the condition making possible the expansion and burst of life to the surface of K2-18b, would be satisfied.

See the article Could the notions of quantum geology and quantum biology make sense? or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Wednesday, July 08, 2026

Has solar system lost two planets or is the standard model for the formation of the solar system totally wrong?

Sabine Hossenfelder (see this) told about a possible solution of a problem plaguing the standard model of the solar system. The model cannot explain the formation of planets as a gravitational condensation of a proto disk. The narrative discussed by Sabine is that actually 2 additional planets would have formed but would have been lost later due to collisions of the planets.

TGD suggests an alternative solution to the problem. Instead of two planets missing from the model, the entire view about the formation of planets by gravitational condensation from the primordial matter disk would be wrong. The TGD proposal is that the planets were formed in explosions throwing out a surface layer of the Sun. There is an obvious analogy with supernova explosions (see for instance this, this and this).

This kind of explosion could have also led to the formation of the moons of the Earth and Mars.

  1. It is now known that the Moon consists of same stuff as the Earth, which strongly disfavors the earlier model, which assumes that Moon was formed as a planet, christened as Theia, having a mass about mass of Mars collided with the Earth and threw out mass that condensed to form the Moon (see this).
  2. By taking the formation of Moon and the mysterious Cambrian explosion in which photosynthesizing multicellular life suddenly popped up out of nowhere, as starting points, one ends up to a rather detailed quantum view of the geological and biological evolution of the Earth (see this).
  3. The formation of the Moon would be associated with the contraction of the radius of the Earth by factor 1/2 about 4.5 Gy ago. Much later an expansion of radius by factor 2 would have given rise to Cambrian Explosion (CE) .5 Gy ago. Life would have evolved in underground oceans and bursted to the surface in CE.
There are several questions to be answered.
  1. The energetics of the expansion is not possible in the standard physics. How metabolism and evolution of photo-synthesizing multicellular life were possible in underground oceans? How were the underground oceans possible in the first place? TGD based new physics suggests answers to these questions.
  2. p-Adic length scale hypothesis applied in condensed matter scales makes the model quantitative. A crucial step would have been the reduction of atomic radius by factor 1/2. There is evidence for this kind of transition in lab scale (experiments of Mills (see this) and Holmlid (see this). The liberated atomic binding energy makes possible the formation of the Moon and also provides the metabolic energy making possible the formation of quantum coherent large heff phases even in the scale of the Earth.
  3. The large scale quantum entanglement reduces the number of translational degrees of freedom and makes possible low pressure and temperature essential for life. Pollack effect is also an essential aspect of the model. This could make possible the evolution of life in underground oceans or water reservoirs under paradize-like conditions in the womb of Mother Gaia.
This kind of model could apply also to the formation of planets by explosions throwing out a surface layer of the Sun and even to supernova explosions. The physics in the interior of the Sun could be completely different from the standard view.
  1. I have already earlier proposed a model for solar wind and solar energy production, which would not be based on fusion in the solar core but to a transformation of nuclei of M89 hadron physics with mass scale by a factor 512 higher than ordinary hadron mass scale to ordinary hadrons. The unexpected strange features of quark gluon plasma provide evidence for M89 hadron physics (see this).
  2. The model suggests that the interior of the Sun, about which we have only speculations, is actually more analogous to a huge living cell rather than a superhot hell inside which hot fusion takes place. See (see this).

See the article About the recent TGD based view concerning cosmology and astrophysics or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Tuesday, July 07, 2026

About the TGD counterparts of blackhole entropy and temperature

Gyanprakash Raj asked about the TGD view of blackhole entropy. In particular, does TGD predict blackhole entropy excess predicted by various models of blackhole trying to understand blackhole information paradox?

TGD forces us to give up the standard view of blackholes as systems having mass concentrated at a single point. The QFT limit of TGD replaces the topologically extremely complex space-time surface with a single region of M4 made slightly curved.

  1. Outside the horizon, the blackhole-like object (BH) would be like an ordinary blackhole. Inside BH the description as a volume filling flux tube spaghetti, giving rise to maximal density, would be more appropriate.
  2. For the TGD counterparts of the ordinary blackholes the flux tube would have thickness of nucleus size scale but an entire hierarchy corresponding to predicted hierarchy of hadron physics labelled by ordinary and Gaussian Mersenne primes is highly suggestive (see this). The difference between stars and blackholes would not be so dramatic as in GRT.
In TGD, the formulas for BH entropy predict dramatic results if ordinary Planck constant is replaced by gravitational Planck constant.
  1. The standard blackhole entropy is extremely small. It is proportional to 1/ℏ and if ℏ is replaced with its gravitational counterpart ℏgr it becomes even smaller.
  2. The standard blackhole temperature is proportional to ℏ and increases equally dramatically. The explanation would be gravitational quantum coherence which increases the geometric pixel proportional to Planck length squared and increases the energy scale.
Just for fun one can look for the standard formulas for SB and TB in the TGD framework.

Consider first the blackhole entropy.

  1. Blackhole entropy SB is essentially the area A of black hole divided by the area unit lP2 propto ℏG:

    SB propto A/lP2 .

  2. Suppose one replaces ℏ with gravitational Planck constant

    gr= GMm/β0 = rSm/2β0 .

    Here the mass m would be naturally the mass of the nucleon characterizing monopole flux tubes of spaghetti as gravitationally dark giant nuclei.

  3. This scales up the lP2 lP2→(rsm/2β0*ℏ)lP2 = (Λgr/λ)lP2, where Λgr=rs/2β0 is mass independent gravitational Compton length (Equivalence Principle). λ is the ordinary Compton length.
  4. β0 is a velocity parameter whose interpretation I have finally understood. TGD is distinguished from GRT in that it allows flat warped space-time surfaces for which light velocity c in M4 is reduced to β0. See (see this) .
  5. The black hole entropy is scaled dramatically downwards so that one cannot speak of excess entropy. One could say that the scaling of Compton length to gravitational one increases the size of the pixel defining the bit. The interpretation of small entropy could be in terms of gravitational quantum coherence. A BH-like object would be an extremely ordered quantum coherent system, totally unlike the standard BH. Also the centers of the stars could be these kinds of objects.

What about blackhole temperature?

  1. The blackhole temperature is given by TB= ℏ/(8πrs) and is extremely low.
  2. In the replacement ℏ→ℏgr , TB would be replaced by

    TB= m/8πβ0, where m is the nucleon mass.

  3. For β0=1, one one would have TB ∼ 37.4 MeV. However, the Nottale's Bohr orbit model for planets predicts for the Sun the value β0 ∼ 2-11. This would give

    TB= 79mp ,

    which is not far from the mass of Z boson 85.7 mp, which would correspond to M89 hadron physics TGD indeed predicts that solar wind and solar energy production is due to the decay of M89 hadrons (basically nucleons) at the surface of the Sun. The mass of the M89 pion is 512 times that of the ordinary pion and equals 71.7 GeV.

  4. Could one think of detecting gamma radiation from the Sun with this energy? Note that the decay of M89 would produce gamma rays with energy 39.5 GeV. There is indeed a mysterious gamma ray emission from the Sun around 40 GeV energy (see this).

See the article About the recent TGD based view concerning cosmology and astrophysics or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

About the energetics of the proposed compression and expansion of Earth

One should also understand the energetics of compression and expansion. Under what conditions these transitions are possible? Gravitational and atomic binding energies are involved. Gravitational binding energies per atom are proportional to the ratio rs/RP for the planet. The binding energy liberated in the transition k=139→ 137 is independent of planetary parameters. In the case of Earth, this transition should provide the energy making possible formation of the Moon and the proposed formation of Rydberg atoms making possible large scale quantum coherence.

One can ask whether the transition is possible for all planets and whether the Earth and Venus, with almost the same value of rs/rP, are in a special position. For large values of rs/rP the electric binding energy needed for the formation of a moon might be too large. rs/rP is indeed large for Jupiter and Saturn which suggests that the transition k=139→ 137 essential for the emergence of life and for the formation of the Moon cannot reduce the radius by factor 1/2. The mechanism for the formation of moons must be different. For small values of rs/rP electromagnetic binding energy would be more than needed. A rough estimate for rs/R is as rs/R∼ (R/RE)2 (rs(E)/rE) and decreases with the size of the object.

Consider next estimates for the changes of the gravitational and electric binding energies per atom. For simplicity, restrict the consideration to the case of the Earth first.

  1. The gravitational binding energy per atom with mass number A increases in the transition RE→ RE/2.

    Δ Egr=(rs/2RE) A mp ∼ A × 3.14 ~eV .

  2. The change Δ EB of the binding energy in the transition k=139→ 137 can be estimated by using the expression for the ground state binding energy of atom with nuclear charge Z for k=139 assigned for ordinary atoms

    EB(139)= Z2 ×αem2/8me ∼ Z2 ×13.6 eV .

    One has EB(137)= 4EB(139) so that the increase of the binding energy is

    Δ EB= 3EB(139)∼ 3Z2 ×13.6 ~eV .

    From Z≤ A/2 one has

    Δ EB≤ A2× (3/4)× 13.6 ∼ ~eV

  3. The condition Δ Egr= Δ EB gives a lower bound A≥ .3 .

    This condition is true for all atoms in the case of Earth and there is also surplus energy to throw out a layer forming the Moon.

For a general planet, the lower bound for A scales as the ratio xP=(rs/rP)/(rs/RE). The values of xP for Venus Mercury and Mars (.85,0.14 .20). It has been proposed that Venus has had a moon but has lost it. Also the nearness of the Sun is unfavourable for having a moon. The formation of the moon could have led to a compression of the Venus and if the life evolved in the interior it would not have survived at the surface after the expansion since the atmosphere (95 percent CO2 and 3.5 percent nitrogen) has temperature of 467 ºC and pressure, which is 93 times that on the Earth.

For the gas giants Jupiter resp. Saturnus with ratio xJ∼ 29.0 resp. xs∼ 10 the lower bound for A is 7.7 resp. 3.3. Moon resp. Titan has xJ∼ .07 resp. xT∼ .056.

See the article Could the notions of quantum geology and quantum biology make sense? or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Saturday, July 04, 2026

Challenging the standard view of neutrinos

Marko Manninen sent me a highly interesting link to the work of Prof. Anca Tureanu (see this), who challenges the prevailing standard physics view of neutrinos (see this).

Why the neutrino physics goes wrong?

Also in my opinion, the theoretical physics picture of neutrinos is wrong.

  1. Both neutrinos and quarks mix: we talk about CKM mixing. Neutrinos are no different from d-quarks in this respect. The mixing model for neutrinos coming from the Sun is in serious trouble. It assumes resonant mixing inside Sun and this is a completely ad hoc feature. This, along with many other anomalies, calls into question the entire view of the Sun's nuclear physics, on which the repeated failed attempts to build hot fusion reactors are based (see this). Strictly speaking, both U and D quarks as well as charged leptons and neutrinos mix: the difference in mixing corresponds to CKM mixing. What mixing is, is a complete mystery in the Standard Model.

    In TGD, mixing is reduced to topological mixing between different topologies of 2-dimensional parton surfaces (see for instance this). A sphere, a torus, and a sphere with 2 handles define the relevant parton topologies. For example, a torus collapses into a sphere in a mixing and a quantum state is a superposition of different topologies. TGD explains why there are 3 generations (why there couldn't be 3 handles, for example) and p-adic thermodynamics correctly predicts masses for different generations. Higher generations would be many particle systems of handles with continuum mass spectrum.

  2. One problem is whether neutrinos are massless or not. There is strong evidence for their massivation and in TGD the masses can be predicted by p-adic thermodynamics (see this, this, this, this and this).

    However, a right-handed neutrino has one exactly massless mode (see this) and this), which is color singlet but also an infinite number of colored modes like other fermions which are associated with color singlet physical states. Color confinement therefore applies also to leptons. The new view of color leads to the prediction of a hierarchy of copies of Standard Model physics (see this). There is already support for this prediction.

    The problem with masses is more general: also quarks are effectively massless in quark-gluon plasma but massive in initial and final states. The concept of quark-gluon plasma seems to be a much more general notion than believed. The proper understanding of this notion could allow us to get out from the confines of QCD and the standard model. TGD indeed leads to a new view of what happens in particle reactions and generalizes the quark-gluon-plasma state to all particles (see this).

  3. There is also the problem of the inert neutrino. It begins to be clear that there is no such thing as an inert neutrino. But the observations require something new to explain the observations. The observations are explained if neutrinos can be in a "dark" heff> h states (see this). Similar darkstate for protons, playhing a key role in TGD based quantum biology, explains the anomalous finding that the life-tme of a neutron depends on the way it is measured (see this).

The claims of Anca Tureanu

I looked at Anca Tureanu's article (see this). In the article, Tureanu claims that there is a logical contradiction in neutrino physics.

  1. The reaction rates are calculated by considering incoming and outgoing neutrinos as mass eigenstates. In contrast, in neutrino mixing observed in laboratory experiments, quantum coherent superpositions of neutrino generations of different masses are assumed in the model of mixing. The model can be tested in laboratory experiments.

    The mixing model is applied to the solar neutrinos inside the Sun. One has to make a very ad hoc assumption about a resonance arising in the interaction with the environment (low energy neutrinos interact extremely weakly). Quarks are also mixed in incoming and outgoing states, but they are assumed to be eigenstates of mass. Note that we cannot study the possible dynamic mixing of quarks in the laboratory.

  2. Can neutrino states with different masses be in quantum superposition? Or do they have to be massless for this to be possible? In what sense would they be massive? Tureanu proposes that neutrinos are massless but that in some sense also massive.

    The proposal is that the phenomenon is analogous to birefringence, which occurs in an insulator, where the dielectric constant for photons coming in perpendicular directions is different. The velocity of propagation is light speed c#< c as in the case of a massive particle. The different polarizations of the incoming light are refracted differently because the speeds of light are different. The light beam splits into two beams travelling in different directions. In birefringence, the polarizations move at speeds v1<c and v2<c. In this sense there is a superposition of photons with different masses.

    What about neutrinos? Instead of two polarizations for neutrinos, there would be 3 different generations moving at different speeds v1, v2, v3 <c in a substance that would be analogous to a birefringent substance. This would give them an effective mass. The polarization direction would be replaced by mass. Now there would be no refraction.

The basic claim of Anca Tureanu and the notion of warping

How does this relate to TGD?

  1. One of the fundamental differences between TGD and GRT are warped 4-surfaces, which are gravitationally and electroweak vacuums but for which the speed of light c# is less than c (see this). The surfaces are analogous to a thin metal plate that is unstable and vibrates, but does not stretch. This means that the light signals along the surface propagate more slowly because the distance between two points is longer.
  2. The simplest example of a warped (and therefore flat) space-time surface is obtained by considering a geodesic circle of CP2 with radius R and angle coordinate Φ. Denote the Minkowski coordinates of M4 with mk and the coordinates of space-time surface X4 by xα. The 4-surface is defined as a map X4 → H=M4× CP2 given by (mk= δkαxα, Φ= ω x0), where k=(ω,0,0,0) is time-like vector. The time-like geodesic of M4 is mapped to a light-like geodesic of H. The induced metric is gαβ ↔ (1-R2ω2,-1,-1,-1) =((c#/c)2,-1,-1,-1). The light velocity is reduced to c#/c=(gtt)1/2= (1-R2ω2)1/2. Note that Lorentz transformations produce additional solutions.

    The square of M4 projection of the 4-velocity dmk/dx0 equals constant R2ω2 just as for a massive particle. Therefore warping has two interpretations. Particles are massless in the induced metric of X4. They are also massless in the metric of H but massive in the metric of M4.

    This generalizes from the level of flat space-time surfaces to the level of Hamilton-Jacobi structures (see this) and does not need to be limited to flat 4-surfaces.

  3. There is actually empirical evidence for the warping from neutrino physics. In the case of SN1987A, the neutrinos arrived in two pulses (see this). I explained this using different warpings of the space-time sheets along which the neutrinos of pulses arrived. Quite recently, it turned out that warping also provides an elegant model for the Allais effect.
  4. Ordinary refraction for electromagnetic waves would occur at the interface of two regions with different c#. The phenomenon would be completely general and also occur for fermions (in TGD all particles are composed of fundamental fermions). In particular, massless neutrinos.

    In birefringence, different spin directions would be associated with different c# values. Could there be substances, where this would happen for fermions as well. Polarizations would correspond to different helicities (M4 chiralities) correlating with CP2 chirality by fermion number conservation.

  5. It however seems that in some sense neutrinos are massless and in some sense massive. This is a paradox. In TGD this is true for all particles. Initial and final many particle states are 8-D and particle states in interaction volume are 4-D.

    In the interaction volume the system is a 4-D surface and fermions fulfill the analogy of the 4-D massless Dirac equation. From the initial and final states of scattering fermions fulfill the 8-D Dirac equation and are massless in the 8-D sense but massive in the 4-D sense. This would generalize the notions of hadron phase and quark-gluon plasma phase so that it applies to all particles. Hadrons appear in the 8-D initial and final states and quarks appear in the 4-D interacting states. Color confinement occurs for both quarks and leptons and there is an infinite hierarchy of standard model physics since there is infinite hierarchy of color partial waves in CP2 for both quarks and leptons.

  6. The 4-surfaces associated with fermions would be massless but characterized by the reduced speed of light c#. Like photons, they would have an effective mass in the interaction volume. Warping gives a precise formulation of the intuition that fermions, in particular neutrinos, are massless in both H and X4 but massive in M4. Different neutrinos in 4-D states would be associated with different values of c#: this would be the counterpart for M4 massivation. p-Adic thermodynamics allows us to calculate the M4 masses as thermodynamic expectation values (see this, this, this, this and this).

Particle massivation and warping

The light-like geodesics of H assigned with the fermion line at the partonic orbit provides a model for the M4 mass squared of particles given as m2= k2R2ω2. This does not require that the space-time surface is a warped flat 4-surface everywhere and thus conforms with the idea that warped Hamilton-Jacobi structures for which M4 and CP2 degrees of freedom are coupled. However, the information about the warping would be coded for the Bohr orbits of the particles by the light-like geodesics at partonic orbits.

  1. If ω is identified as a Compton frequency for particle with mass m so that one has k= ℏeff/R and m= ℏeffω giving c#2= 1-R2ω2= 1-R2m2/ℏeff2= 1-R2c2, where λc is the Compton length for heff. This predicts the value of c#== β0 once particle mass and heff are known.
  2. The signature of the metric remains Minkowskian for ℏeff/m>R. For heff=h this requires that the particle mass is below CP2 mass. The stringy mass squared spectrum predicted by generalized super conformal symmetry allows larger mass and for these masses the value of heff>h is required to avoid tachyonicity.
  3. One can consider the situation for the electric Planck constant ℏem= Qq/β0 and gravitational Planck constant ℏgr= rsm/2β0. In these cases the value of c# is completely fixed. In the electric case, one has c#2= 1-R2m2c#2/Q2q2 giving c#/c= (1/(1+R2m2/Q2q2))1/2 and c# depends on the particle mass. The gravitational case gives c#/c= (1/(1+4R2/rs2))1/2. There is no dependence on the mass m: this reflects the Equivalence Principle.

See the article Comparing the S-matrix descriptions of fundamental interactions provided by standard model and TGD or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Could the notions of quantum geology and quantum biology make sense?

I have carried out a considerable work to fuse the existing TGD inspired ideas about the geological and biological   evolution of life  on Earth to a single coherent whole.  The strategy is to identify weak points of the existing vision and here the language models provide an extremely powerful tool.

 The evolution of life on Earth encountered several bottlenecks. In the  beginning, the generation of nitrogen atoms from N2 molecules, having a very large binding energy, was made possible by the presence of volcanoes but soon it became ineffective.  Bacteria invented the nitrogenase enzyme for which oxygen was a poison.  Later  bacteria invented oxygen breathing and photosynthesis releasing oxygen as a waste. This led to the Great Oxygenation Event meaning a catastrophe destroying most bacteria. Ways to avoid   the destruction of nitrogenase were invented.

The sudden emergence of highly evolved multicellular life forms in Cambrian Explosion (CE)  with almost no fossils intermediate between them and monocellulars is an unsolved mystery.  It served as  the starting point of the development of  the TGD based view of biological and geological evolution of Earth. There is evidence that the continents of the Earth fit nicely together along the boundaries if the radius of the Earth is taken 1/2 of the recent radius. This inspires the proposal that CE involved a rapid expansion of the radius of Earth in a geologically short time interval and the multicellular life forms evolved in underground oceans before the CE.

This leads to what might be called quantum geology or rather, a combination of quantum geology and quantum biology.

  1. The contraction of the Earth radius by factor 1/2 implies the increase of the density by factor 8. In the framework of standard model physics  implies a huge increase of pressure and temperature and life could not have evolved in underground water reservoirs  if they could be even  present.  Large scale quantum coherence could however change the situation.
  2.  The liberated gravitational and  atomic binding energies would  have served as a metabolic energy  increasing the value of heff (a measure for complexity) and  given rise to phases of matter  labelled by biologically important p-adic length scales.  Assuming  that repulsive Coulomb energies decreased and that the  allowed p-adic integers k  are primes, a simple scaling argument implies that biologically relevant p-adic length scales characterize the quantum coherence regions space-time sheets.

    The compression would have induced a Pollack effect, which transferred protons and possibly also  other alkali ions from the silicate (SiO4-4) lattice  of the mantle to the gravitational magnetic body of the Earth characterized by a huge value of gravitational Planck constant ℏgr so that the system became quantum coherent in astrophysical length scales. The dramatic reduction of the number of  translational degrees of freedom  implied that the pressure and temperature could remain in the physiological range and multicellular life could evolve in underground water reservoirs and emerge to the surface in Cambrian Explosion involving an expansion of the Earh radius by factor 2.

  3.  p-Adic length scale hypothesis allows to make the picture quantitative. For   years ago, I considered  the possibility of a   phase transition reducing the p-adic size scale of atoms by factor 2. The p-adic length scale L(k=139) defining atomic size scale would have been reduced to L(137)=L(139)/2). This would have liberated a huge gravitational energy and thrown the surface layer out  giving rise to the formation of the Moon. The liberated gravitational and  atomic binding energies would  have served as a metabolic energy  increasing the value of heff (a measure for complexity) and  generated phases of matter  with long p-adic length scales.  Assuming  that repulsive Coulomb energies decreased and that the  allowed p-adic integers k  are primes, a simple scaling argument implies that biologically relevant p-adic length scales characterize the space-time sheets as quantum coherence regions.
  4.   The presence of gravitational quantum coherence motivates quantum model for the Earth as an elastic ball based on quantum harmonic oscillator characterized by ℏgr coding Equivalence Principle and implying that the radii of harmonic oscillator states do not depend on the particle mass.

    The model suggests that the compression and expansion phases could have taken place in two steps. During the first step of the compression phase the particles of the upper mantle would have been transferred to   lower harmonic oscillator states. During the  second step this would have happened to the particles of the lower mantle.  One of the key questions is whether the oceans were at the surface of Earth before CE or not: also this question I try to answer in the sequel.

    This picture provides a qualitative understanding of the geological evolution, including formation of old mountains before the first step of contraction and emergence of plate tectonics after it. Also oceans could have emerged already in the first step. The model explains why the tectonic plates for the oceanic crust differ from those for the continental crust.

See the article Could the notions of quantum geology and quantum biology make sense? or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

AI and TGD

Lian Sidorov, Ben Goertzel, Michael Levin, Matti Pitk&aul;nen, and Vasileios Basios, published a collective article entitled "At Play in the Fields of the Lord: On Goal Evolutionary Dynamics in Complex Adaptive Systems" in in Journal of Nonlocality (see this). I am grateful for the honour to be one of the authors.

The article was in a form of a panel discussion about various aspects of AI, in particular whether AI could be or become conscious. Lian Sidorov did a marvellous job in organizing the efforts of the authors. My own rather technical contribution was a separate article "AI and TGD". Using Claude, Lian prepared a layman version of "AI and TGD" with the title "TGD AI synthesis".

Here is the abstract of "AI and TGD".

Lian Sidoroff represented along series of questions related to AI, in particular conscious AI. In this article I discuss the general questions and the questions specific to TGD. TGD based view relies on TGD inspired theory of consciousness and quantum biology and the TGD based mechanism of quantum biology allow to imagine what conscious computers and networks witgh collective levels of consciousness might be.

The first building block of the vision is the view of space-time as a 4-surface in H=M4× CP2 determined by holography = holomorphy (H-H) principle, which allows to solve classical theory exactly. The slight classical non-determinism forces to take Bohr orbit-like space-time surfaces as basic objects and the 4-D degrees of freedom related to non-determinism provide correlates of cognition.

Also the notion of gauge field generalizes. The notion of field body carrying phases of ordinary matter with a large value of effective Planck constant serving as a measure of algebraic complexity defining a kind of IQ. These phases behave like dark matter and are characterized by long range quantum coherence.

Number theoretical vision is a further notion and leads to a 4-D generalization of Langlands duality in which numbers in very general sense and even mathematical proofs have space-time surfaces as geometric representations. p-Adic number fields generalize to their function field counterparts. Also Boolean logic has fermionic representation.

Zero energy ontology (ZEO), which allows to solve the quantum measurement problem extends quantum measurement theory to a theory of consciousness and allows to understand the relationship between geometric time and subjective time. Macroscopic quantum coherence, Pollack effect and a universal realization of genetic code based on icosa tetrahedral tessellation of hyperbolic 3-space H3 are central notions of the TGD inspired quantum biology and the conjecture is that also conscious computers could be based on them.

See the article AI and TGD or the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Saturday, June 20, 2026

Pure quantum version of Pollack battery and Biefeld-Brown effect

Wikipedia informs that there are a number of battery voltages that are preferred and that chemistry forces them (see this). 1.5 eV deducted for the Donut battery is one of them. Why?
  1. The answer to the question reduces to the notion of electronegativity characterized by chemical potential. For example, oxygen is willing to accept electrons from less electronegative atoms and hydrogen, alkali atoms and carbon are ready to give them up in oxidation. In the process oxygen is reduced and one speaks of redox reactions. These reactions are basic processes of biochemistry.

    In a typical situation, molecule A receives oxygen atoms from molecule B when it is oxidized. The process is more general: for instance, nitrogen, phosphorus or sulfur could replace oxygen. When an atom, say Carbon gives up oxygen atoms or C=O bonds transform C-OH bonds, reduction also occurs. When A is oxidized, B is reduced.

  2. When an electron moves from one electrode to another, the stored energy is determined by the difference of chemical potentials. Charge transfer occurs when the difference is non-vanishing. The difference in chemical potential between atom A and some reference atom determines the electronegativity. Depending on its sign, either A or B tends to give up electrons. At equilibrium (without load), the voltage between the electrodes at equilibrium equals the difference of chemical potentials. This voltage is created during charging and does not have to be the opposite of the charging voltage, which is decoupled from the system after the charging is complete.

    Chemical potential is a thermodynamic parameter and can be considered as chemical energy that also includes electrostatic energy. It should be noted that we are talking about electrons now and electrons flow in the case of the Pollack battery when the battery is used because an ohmic electron current passes through the load.

Consider now the Pollack batteries.

  1. In the charging of a Pollack battery there is very little dissipation because the dark protons flow through the magnetic body and the chemical potential is reduced to the electrostatic energy determined by the voltage. For semiclassical Pollack batteries the dark protons transform to ordinary ones at the target electrode E2. For purely quantal Pollack batteries, the dark charges at MB do not transform to ordinary ones during the charging. It seems that different descriptions are needed at the level of the magnetic body and for ordinary matter, where the description would be purely chemical and involve chemical potentials.
  2. The difference of chemical potentials at the level of ordinary matter changing during charging should be equal to the changing voltage during charging. How does the initial charging voltage V0 relate to the voltage Vuse after charging?

One can start from a problem.

  1. Assuming a 100 g electrode and accepting the claims of Donut Lab, the energy gained by a dark proton in the Pollack effect is 1.44 eV, which corresponds rather accurately to the standard battery voltage of 1.5 V. 104 g gives a value of 1.5 V. Is it time to shout Eureka? Not quite yet.
  2. Marko informed that in some VTT based estimates the voltage was around 3.5 V. Is this voltage the charging voltage V0 or the post-charging voltage Vuse, whose magnitude need not be the same as that of the charging voltage. Which option is correct: V0=3.5 V and Vuse =1.5 V or vice versa?

Intriguingly, the pondering of this problem lead to a possible connection between pure quantum battery (see this) in which the capacitor behaves as if it had a net charge. The TGD explanation (see this) assumes that the capacitor indeed develops a net charge. The charge separation would be not only between the capacitor plates but also between the magnetic body (MB) and capacitor as a whole would be opposite. Biefeld-Brown effect would be also involved with the em drive (see this).

  1. The pure quantum version of the Pollack capacitor indeed assumes two kinds of charge separations so that the Biefeld-Brown effect is possible. The charge separation between E1 and magnetic body (MB) would induce charge separation between E1 and E2. Could the Pollack effect take place also at E2 and induce a charge separation between E2 and MB and make the Pollack battery charged and imply that the charges of E1 are not of the same magnitude so that the Biefeld-Brown effect is implied?
  2. But is the Pollack effect for E2 possible energetically? The TGD inspired quantum biology serves as a guideline here (see this and this). The proposal is that for DNA and cell membranes with a permanent negative state, the state formed by dark protons at the magnetic body forms what might be called dark nucleus having a binding energy much smaller than the ordinary nuclear binding energy.

    Could the presence of dark protons at the magnetic body forming dark nuclei serve as a seed of phase transition for the Pollack effect also at E2 occurring spontaneously? The generation of dark nuclear binding energy would make the transition energetically possible.

    This would increase the negative charge at electrode E2 but would not affect the negative charge at the electrode E1. Pure quantum batteries would allow more negative charge to E2 than the semiclassical Pollack battery for the dark protons drop to E2 during the charging. The Pollack effect at E2 would increase the effective charging voltage Veff during charging whereas Pollack effect at E1 would tend to reduce it.

  3. A reasonable expectation is that too much positive charge near E2 at MB makes the system unstable and some maximum dark proton charge can be loaded from E1 and E2 by the Pollack effect. There would also be an upper bound for the number of protons, which can be transferred from E2 to MB. The outcome would be a state in which MB and the battery would have opposite charges but this would not be the case for E1 and E2.

    Veff= V0+VP, would be the sum of the charging voltage V0 and the contribution VP = -VP,E1 +VP,E2 due to the generation of negative charge by Pollack effect at both E1 and E2. This would give Veff= V0 -VP,E1 +VP,E2. The increase of Veff during charging would transfer more positive charge to E2.

  4. Intuitively it seems clear that saturation occurs and the decoupling of the original charging voltage V0 is possible. The user voltage would be Vuse= -VP,E1 +VP,E2 and should have a sign, which is opposite to that of V0. For VP,E2=0 the upper bound for | Vuse| would be | VP,E1| = | V0| corresponding to complete compensation of the positive charge at E1 by the generation of negative charge in Pollack effect.
  5. VP,E2 and VP,E1 have opposite effects on the magnitude of Vuse. The dielectric between capacitor plates is replaced now by a catalyst of the Pollack effect. A reasonable guess is that the Pollack effect at E2 has the same effect as the presence of dielectric.

    For dielectrics, the voltage is given by V = CQ/εr and by εr>1 smaller than without dielectric. Same is expected now. This conforms with the estimate for the energy per dark proton if the final voltage is indeed about 1.5 V and smaller than the initial voltage. If so, Vuse=| -VP,E1 +VP,E2| would be about 1.5 V and by a factor 1.5/3.5= 3/7 smaller than the estimate 3.5 V by VTT using standard chemical picture if this estimate indeed corresponds to the charging voltage. Pollack effect at E2 would make possible a larger charge/voltage ratio just as the use of a dielectric.

See the article Are Pollack batteries possible? and the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.

Tuesday, June 16, 2026

A pure quantum model for the Pollack battery based on dark protons

The development of the notion of Pollack battery as a possible model explaining the claims of Donut Lab has been rather painful process. At least formally, the notion of a pure quantum Pollack battery makes sense for dark hydrogen atoms (see this). Does it also make sense for dark protons? In the charging of the Pollack battery, the ordinary protons at monopole flux tube states are transferred to flux tubes and localized near the opposite electrode. When the Pollack battery is used, the voltage generated during charging has an opposite sign. The addition of load suggests that a localization to the electrode E1 takes place so that a reverse Pollack effect occurs.

Concerning the construction of the model of Pollack battery for dark protons, the technical problem is that the potential is repulsive if it is taken to vanish at the first electrode E1 so that Schrödinger equation does not give bound state solutions.

  1. By gauge invariance it is however possible to add to the potential function a constant so that it vanishes at the second electrode E1. Schrödinger equation for the states localized E2 however gives rise to bound states since voltage with respect to the opposite electrode is negative and increases. Gravitational bound states in the gravitational potential of Earth near the surface of Earth defines a completely analogous system.
  2. The Schrödinger equation appears in WKB approximation and solutions are Airy functions satisfying a simple differential equation. The solutions for ordinary value of Planck constant are discussed here) and for general Planck constant here).
  3. The situation can be approximated as effectively 1-dimensional. The Schrödinger equation is

    (ℏ2eff/2m)∂z2 + eE(z-z0) )Ψ = EnΨ .

    Here z denotes the coordinate along the monopole flux tube and E denotes the strength of the electric field. En is the energy eigenvalue. In the recent case the identification of heff is as the gravitational Planck constant ℏgr(ME,m) = rs(e)m/2β0= Λgrm for the pair formed by Earth and charged particle with mass m, in the recent case proton mass. β0=v0/c ∼ 1 is true for the Earth.

  4. One can introduce the dimensionless coordinate variable

    x= (z-z0)/z1 ,

    where the scales z0 ad z1 are defined as

    z0= (En/eE)= (En/eV0) rs ,

    z1= (ℏgr2/2meE)1/3 = (mp/8eV0)1/3 rs ,

    eV0= eErs .

    1. In semiclassical approximation, z0 has interpretation as a classical turning point for Bohr orbits and is of the same order of magnitude as the distance d between the electrodes E1 and E2 of the Pollack battery. Also rs∼ 1 cm is expected to be of the order of magnitude as d.

      For proton and eV0= 1 eV one z1(p)∼ 103rs/2∼ 5 m and z0/z1∼ 2× 10-3(eV0/En). For electrons one has z1(p)(memp)1/3 ∼ z 103rs/2∼ .4 m.

    2. That z1 is larger than z0 has interpretation as quantum tunnelling beyond the classically allowed region. One could say that the charges can get along flux tubes outside the region bounded by the electrodes of the battery.
  5. Using the variable x, the Schrödinger equation reduces to a differential equation for Airy functions (see this) given by

    (∂x2 +x)Ψ=0 .

Just for fun, one can compare the situation to that for the gravitational potential of the Earth assuming gravitational Planck constant. In this case the value of z1= (mp/(8GMmp/RE))1/3 rs = (RE/rs(E))1/3rs∼ 1.08× 103rS(E)∼ 8.6 m. This is the size scale of trees and many animals and one can wonder how relevant this scale is for biology. Note that z0 corresponds now to the classical turning point in the gravitational field.

See the article Are Pollack batteries possible? and the chapter with the same title.

For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.